Synopsis
From the director of "New Jack City"
A group of mostly black infantrymen return from the Spanish-American War with a cache of gold. They travel to the West where their leader searches for the men who lynched his father.
1993 Directed by Mario Van Peebles
A group of mostly black infantrymen return from the Spanish-American War with a cache of gold. They travel to the West where their leader searches for the men who lynched his father.
Mario Van Peebles Stephen Baldwin Tom Lister Jr. Big Daddy Kane Billy Zane Pam Grier Salli Richardson-Whitfield Isaac Hayes Charles Lane James Bigwood Mark Buntzman Warrington Hudlin Melvin Van Peebles Woody Strode Reginald VelJohnson Paul Bartel Tone Loc Sandra Ellis Lafferty Robert Hooks Sy Richardson Bob Minor Vesta Williams Nipsey Russell Blair Underwood Richard Jordan Stephen J. Cannell Richard Edson Richard Gant
A seemingly forgotten little gem. Van Peebles’ exuberant style sometimes gets in the way but this largely sturdy western is as overtly politically activated as any good blaxplo, it’s packed with action, and the cast is absolutely loaded, from Isaac Hayes and Pam Grier to Big Daddy Kane all the way to SIDEWALK STORIES director Charles Lane.
Mario Van Peebles's followup to New Jack City is a black revisionist western that retains the earlier movie's prominent social conscience from the very start, with a great opening monologue from western legend Woody Strode, but it's also got a rich vein of high energy spaghetti western pulp that makes NJC seem like austere neorealist fare by comparison. It wears out some of its welcome at nearly two hours, but it makes almost all of it up thanks to MVP's Landis or Dante-like approach to casting, loading the film with so many great personalities that it almost becomes overwhelming -- where else are you ever going to see Mario Van Peebles, Tone Loc, Big Daddy Kane, Tiny Lister, Isaac Hayes,…
Rapidfire and sleek, all the fury of a music video, an early attempt to make Westerns cool again, but more a film with an agenda bigger than it can handle. The black cowboys remain forgotten, and this film seems to be more or less shunted off to the side as well, sadly. Sadly, because of course, erasing parts of history for the sake of continued racist violence is appalling, and sadly because if it had resuscitated the Western genre, it would have meant an entirely new landscape over the next two decades. Instead of revisionist, we could have had revitalizationist Westerns, Westerns that dispelled myths and reshaped American history into something anyone could be proud of, by remembering those anyone…
Posse es el resultado de la confluencia de dos tendencias aparecidas al inicio de los 90s. Por un lado, el resurgir del wéstern como género con posibilidades comerciales tras el éxito de Dances with Wolves y de Ungorgiven; por otro, el nuevo cine afroamericano nacido al rebufo del fenómeno Public Enemy y la explosión hip-hop de finales de los 80s, y que contaba con Spike Lee como su máximo exponente, seguido discretamente por John Singleton, los hermanos Hughes o el propio Mario Van Peebles.
Es de suponer que Van Peebles, veterano actor que acababa de reivindicarse tras la cámara con New Jack City, abrazó este proyecto con entusiasmo, deseando ofrecer un superwéstern de aventuras que fuese también una lección de historia…
The early '90s were a time when it didn't seem odd for Mario Van Peebles to cast Stephen Baldwin as the token white guy in a cowboy movie.
As far as 90s westerns go, this has more style than The Quick and the Dead, more laughs than City Slickers, more violence than Unforgiven, more surrealism than Dead Man and (somehow) a better ensemble cast than Tombstone.
Mario Van Peebles' unapologetically Black revisionist western is as much an ardent outlier in its own era of chosen genre as it is an homage to the Black westerns of the 70s, particularly Buck and the Preacher and Take a Hard Ride - but it's also more than that, with a kitchen sink approach to genre and style that is probably best compared to the same year's Last Action Hero and being every bit a Movie Movie as that one is. Sorely overlooked and ripe for reappraisal this very moment.
And if that's all not enough, Tone Loc sings a song titled Posse Love on the soundtrack.
The idea of the film is very intriguing: as the narrator rightly informs the viewer at the start, many in the West were black as they migrated westward in search of better lives after the Civil War.
However, the film simply doesn’t have the budget nor the talent (some of the cast are great, others are terrible) to pull it off effectively. Surprisingly, Big Daddy Kane probably had the best performance.
The 25th Anniversary was actually yesterday. But I watched like 1/2 hour last night. And finished the rest today. A perfectly fine revisionist western that was directed and starring the always great Mario Van Peebles. And I want to state for the record what a glorious cast of mostly “African American” actors this film has. It seems like “everyone” in this thing! Blair Underwood, Tommy Lister, Pam Grier, Charles Lane, Big Daddy Kane, Tone Loc, and even his father Melvin Van Peebles puts an appearance in this thing. Rated R for language, violence and even some nudity courtesy Salli Richardson-Whitfield. For a film that is now over 25 years old, I’m afraid the death list is quite long and includes…
Mario Van Peebles hit it big with NEW JACK CITY, so he shot for the freaking sky with his second directorial outing: A hyper-stylized neo-western about a posse of black cowboys. The film's got an amazing cast, a real sense of scope, and while the style sometimes comes off as a clunky, I'd rather watch a swing for the fences any day of the week.
Really not sure why this is so critically derided, especially on this site? Mario Van Peeble’s direction is solid, the cast is insane, the violence is ridiculous and it’s super fast paced. It certainly has some flaws but it’s not the failure that other reviewers here have made it out to be. I really, really enjoyed it and I would take this over any boring old white dude cowboy film from the same time period. It’s also the second 90’s western I’ve seen this month with Isaac Hayes in it? Huh. Definitely worth a modern revaluation. Evil Billy Zane forever.
Positives:
-They got Deebo’s big ass riding a horse
-An original theme song by Tragedy Khadafi!
-Tone Loc seems to have no idea he’s in a western he’s acting like it’s early 90s LA
-Blair Underwood is the best desperate social climbing black dude
-Big Daddy Kane is sick
-Salli Richardson is the hottest person (maybe ever?)
Negatives:
-The frame story structure sucks
-Stephen Baldwin also sucks
-Not enough Pam Grier
-Mario Van Peebles should’ve stayed behind the camera
-I felt bad for the horse that had to carry Deebo’s big ass
Ok I finally got to rewatch this after twenty something years??? I fondly remembered this as being a bad assed action western movie occasionally interrupted by some periodic heavy messaging of "Educate Yo Self Fool!!!" But in rewatching it I'm actually surprised at how much I liked it even more. It is messy and overstuffed but i swear this must be the Western that Spike Lee must've been eating his heart out that he didnt get to make cause the way it continually swings from the flashback scenes of Van Peebles being lynched and nearly killed side by side with the more overtly comedic scenes of the gang wandering around the cathouse having fun....and you throw in the ending half…
Positives:
-They got Deebo’s big ass riding a horse
-An original theme song by Tragedy Khadafi!
-Tone Loc seems to have no idea he’s in a western he’s acting like it’s early 90s LA
-Blair Underwood is the best desperate social climbing black dude
-Big Daddy Kane is sick
-Salli Richardson is the hottest person (maybe ever?)
Negatives:
-The frame story structure sucks
-Stephen Baldwin also sucks
-Not enough Pam Grier
-Mario Van Peebles should’ve stayed behind the camera
-I felt bad for the horse that had to carry Deebo’s big ass
Como reivindicación de una era y una figura olvidada sobremanera por los westerns funciona a las mil maravillas. Posse es un alegato racial sobre la importancia de los vaqueros negros en el oeste. dirigido por Mario Van Peebles. El problema es que además quiere convertirla también en una películas de bandas de negros y eso lastra el resultado, pero disfrutable lo es de sobras.
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While I find this movie to be well acted - everyone gave a great performance - I found the script to be messy. I liked the setting, the characters and their dynamics, but ultimately following the story was a bit of a chore for me. I'd love to see more Black cowboy movies though - I think that's a super interesting story that's been lost to whitewashing of history.
Six out of ten rigged poker games.
MvP’s command of his images here is really impressive; seeing in reviews a wide rejection of the roving camera as being unable to latch onto much but am setting myself down in opposition— it’s latching onto everything it catches sight of and creating a totally batshit sense of montage, trains thundering past ticking clocks past rearing horses, all of the west condensed into a concentrated onslaught. there’s no concern with continuity and the only stakes that matter are derived from the images that create them: burning schools, crucifixions, time itself, blood and dirt. really nice to see everyone who’s ever popped up in a movie pop up at one point or another.
Peebles’ swaggering mannerism is wonderful when his impulses climb towards cartoonish heights. His occasional attempts to reign things in are a much more mixed bag, as his roaming camera is unsuited to capture images of dramatic or moral import. The best example of this is the sex scene, in which bloodless vigor reduces the proceedings to a series of Skinemax vignettes. Pam Grier’s sparse role is a disservice to both her talent and historical stature—women in general would benefit from a lot more fleshing out. The New Orleans brothel scene, ironically, provides the movie with its most animated female characters; their transparent status as objects at least allows them to embody the role of salespeople.
All in all: an uneven blast, Woody Strode’s frame story worth the price of admission alone.
Viewed in 1993. Group of black Civil War veterans who defend a small town against the KKK. Decent action.
An ensemble western that feels very of its time. I like the cast and there's fun to be had, though sections of it drag a bit.
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I love what this movie wants to be.
I hate what it became.
Start with a damn good message, add an awesome ensemble cast, throw in a ton of style, have your cast overact, add too many plotlines, edit the shit out the film, and BAM! you got this movie.
This movie is a complete mess, and it is a mess I really wanted to enjoy. When I made this Black History Month Challenge this was one of the most anticipated films on the list. I wanted to see more genre films, action, horror, westerns. Sadly, this is horrible. I think I'd rather watch The Cherokee Kid with Sinbad. Actually, is that available on any of my subscriptions? I want to see that now!
Antes de que Django Unchained planteara la posmodernidad del hip hip en una del oeste, ya lo hizo Mario Van Peebles en este Western Noire alucinante al que le debe no solo el Tarantino de Kill Bill (Ya se recupera aquí a Pam Grier), sino Desperado, Rápida y Mortal o la misma Da 5 Bloods. No sólo es un buen blaxploitation sino que su comentario racial es tremendamente válido hoy, recoge un comentario muy pertinente sobre la gentrificación (con clímax bastante mejor que Bacurau), y mola como quiere molar el remake de Los 7 magníficos. De culto.
I’ll be damned, Posse holds up. I thought I only had vague memories of this, but about 10 minutes in I realized that I must have watched the shit out of this back in the day.
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